Then finally a 23 year member of the CIA’s clandestine Service who retired in 2007 as Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Transnational Threats, Glenn Carle, joins us in studio. We discuss the recent arrest of an ex- CIA officer for espionage and the legacy of torture that haunts the CIA and caused Glen Carle to resign from the CIA because he could not fulfill his oath to preserve and protect the Constitution. He is the author of the new book “The Interrogator: An Education”.