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Part 1
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We begin with President Obama’s actions on Monday to limit military-style equipment for police forces, banning some types of heavy weaponry and restricting the availability of other equipment supplied under a Pentagon program. Elizabeth Beavers, the Legislative Associate for Militarism and Civil Liberties at the Friends Committee on National Legislation, who lobbies Congress to end the Pentagon giveaway of military weaponry to America’s police forces, joins us. We discuss the significance of Obama’s executive order and what pushback it is likely to meet.
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Part 2
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Then we speak with Dr. John Mueller, the Woody Hayes Chair of National Security at Ohio State University and the author of “Terror, Security and Money: Balancing the Risks, Benefits, and Costs of Homeland Security”. He joins us to discuss the millions of false terrorist leads the FBI has tracked down since 9/11 in a futile activity known as “chasing ghosts”, and why in the most recent so-called terrorist attack attributed to ISIS in Garland, Texas, the tip-off by the “hacktivist” group Anonymous to the Garland police two days earlier, was ignored.
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